- Archlinux: A rolling release that feels future-proof. Plus, the AUR g me tons of flexibility.
I swear by this one no matter where you put it. If you want it in a container, or in a refrigerator for that matter. I've even used the arm version on a few rpi3's in the past. ;)
I swear by this one no matter where you put it. If you want it in a container, or in a refrigerator for that matter. I've even used the arm version on a few rpi3's in the past. ;)
Well, it looks like I might be switching my containers to Arch. I finished
https://imgur.com/wvtIQTx
Debian has been operating as a political institution since more or less the systemd migration. But then I think the systemd migration itself was very badly handled. I remember meeting some people from the Debian ecosystem back in the day and celebrating they had kicked those
"fuckers" when some developers and packagers left over it. You'd think they were happy they were losing manpower.
For LXC in particular I tend to favor Devuan because it offers a Debian-li base - so third party services you bolt on it are likely to run - without carrying the bad babbage Debian has been accumulating as of late.Thank's for that info, I will look into Devuan. I have never heard of that distro, but looking at their website, seems like worth a try.
Alpine is good but then it is less compatible with random stuff you might Ar> to deploy on it - it has a minoritary libc, for starters, so lots of
precompiled solutions simply don't run on Alpine as they are.
The entire Linux and FOSS eco-system is currently just as divided as the U.S. is - I can't count the number of projects I've stopped using in the past year on one hand.
neoshock wrote to paulie420 <=-
The entire Linux and FOSS eco-system is currently just as divided as the U.S. is - I can't count the number of projects I've stopped using in the past year on one hand.
Yes, its been some year in deciding what projects to support lately.
It's one thing to make decisions on the the project itself (aka
systemd), but when it starts with things like political views, it been quite ridiculous. These need to stay out of FOSS projects. I have been seriously thinking of going BSD lately, just not sure if I want to
tackle re-learning things. Or maybe temple OS, LOL
I sure hope I do not need to switch to LFS
Yes, its been some year in deciding what projects to support lately.
It's one thing to make decisions on the the project itself (aka
systemd), but when it starts with things like political views, it been quite ridiculous. These need to stay out of FOSS projects.
I have been seriously thinking of going BSD lately, just not sure if I want to tackle re-learning things.
Yes, I agree. Originally Alpine seemed like was something I was going to switch all my containers, however it looks with the amount of work needing to get some projects working may not be worth the time. I might however use Alpine for simple services like Samba and ssh. All my other containers would mount those file shares. This allows me only needing to mount to one samba server to transfer files if need, rather than need to mount multiple samba servers on on desktop.
Yes, its been some year in deciding what projects to support lately. It's one thing to make decisions on the the project itself (aka systemd), but when it starts with things like political views, it been quite ridiculous. These need to stay out of FOSS projects.
I have been seriously thinking of going BSD lately, just not sure if I want to tackle re-learning things.
Or maybe temple OS, LOL
I sure hope I do not need to switch to LFS
Slackware, for the win.
The BSDs don't require you to relearn that many things. Most of the
userland is similar and I think if you are a poweruser in Linux land
you will be up to speed with any BSD in a couple of weeks. The
differences surface when you start doing intensive work (such as
creating a package for a BSD) or trying to coherce Linux-centric
software into running on your BSD of choice.
my problem with linux is not the OSes, it's development done on programs that i use with linux. some of these guys are screwballs, still developing older versions of things while also newer versions are coming out. that's chaos.
I'm not a fan of a gui in linux; i prefer cli.
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Gamgee to neoshock on Sun Feb 16 2025 07:09 pm
Slackware, for the win.
Slackware is cool because it is one of the few Linux distributions that works as a general purpose solution without having all its management tools be utter bullshit :-)
I wish their release engineering was better. I think if it was, I would not have jumped to the BSDs myself.
Probably my biggest dislike of Slackware, right there. A real world
Probably my biggest dislike of Slackware, right there. A real world
example of how it sucks - I recently moved the BBS from an older machine
to a new "mini-computer" with modern hardware/UEFI "bios". Installed Slackware 15.0 on it and it would not start Xwindows. Eventually I
learned that the built-in video (Intel N100 CPU) was not supported by
the 3-year-old kernel (ver 5.x.x). So I installed Slackware-current and
Absolutely. I use ONLY Linux, and use a GUI for many things. I am also quite "fluent" at a command line, and use that for a LOT of things.
They both have their purposes and it would be silly to not use both.
fusion wrote to Gamgee <=-
Probably my biggest dislike of Slackware, right there. A real world
mine is the .new and .orig files that get scattered around when
software is updated lol
before that it was kernel updates back when i had an nvidia card.. the instructions basically had you running some swap commands because parts
of xorg had to be replaced, rebuilding the kernel driver (hopefully not accidentally to the old kernel version instead of the new one), and
then swapping the new files back into xorg.. not really hard but was a nuisance when you accidentally miss a step and your desktop comes up @ 800x600..
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Absolutely. I use ONLY Linux, and use a GUI for many things. I am also quite "fluent" at a command line, and use that for a LOT of things.
They both have their purposes and it would be silly to not use both.
Agreed. I have a couple of boxes (servers) I don't need the GUI on so
I don't use it. Otherwise, I do. I prefer a simpler GUI (IceWM) to
some of the other, "prettier" ones.
I like a little bit of "eye candy", and have been using XFCE for years. Cleaner and lighter than Gnome/KDE at least.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
I like a little bit of "eye candy", and have been using XFCE for years. Cleaner and lighter than Gnome/KDE at least.
I have my main PC at home set up to dual-boot between Windows 11 and
Linux Mint. For Linux Mint, I'm using its Cinnamon GUI environment, but I'm actually considering switching it to XFCE for the themes support.
I use exclusively Linux Mint for my BBS PC, and although it's
technically set up to be a server, I use the XFCE UI on it, as I tend
to like to use some UI-based software on it, and I'd heard XFCE is
lighter than Cinnamon. I've had a look around and have been able to
find several XFCE themes that I like (mostly, themes based on other operating systems such as BeOS, OS/2, Mac OS X (Aqua) or even classic
Mac OS), and it seems harder to find such UI themes for Cinnamon
(though at some point I thought I remembered being able to find some
for Cinnamon that I liked).
Absolutely. I use ONLY Linux, and use a GUI for many things. I am also quite "fluent" at a command line, and use that for a LOT of things.
They both have their purposes and it would be silly to not use both.
Agreed. I have a couple of boxes (servers) I don't need the GUI on so
I don't use it. Otherwise, I do. I prefer a simpler GUI (IceWM) to some of the other, "prettier" ones.
I like a little bit of "eye candy", and have been using XFCE for years. Cleaner and lighter than Gnome/KDE at least.
it installed isn't what the laptop has. It was something newer, so I
went with a mix of LxQT and IceWM instead.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Absolutely. I use ONLY Linux, and use a GUI for many things. I am also quite "fluent" at a command line, and use that for a LOT of things.
They both have their purposes and it would be silly to not use both.
Agreed. I have a couple of boxes (servers) I don't need the GUI on so I don't use it. Otherwise, I do. I prefer a simpler GUI (IceWM) to some of the other, "prettier" ones.
I like a little bit of "eye candy", and have been using XFCE for years. Cleaner and lighter than Gnome/KDE at least.
I have a laptop that I use Gnome on. It came with that as the default over 10 years ago, before the big Gnome "upgrade" that made it real horrible. Because I have not done a fresh install since -- upgrading
via apt instead -- I think I have a version of Gnome on that machine
that can no longer be installed on new machines via apt. I recently
got a new system and tried to put Gnome on it, but the "classic/lite" version it installed isn't what the laptop has. It was something
newer, so I went with a mix of LxQT and IceWM instead.
that can no longer be installed on new machines via apt. I recently
got a new system and tried to put Gnome on it, but the "classic/lite" version it installed isn't what the laptop has. It was something
newer, so I went with a mix of LxQT and IceWM instead.
Yup, I was a Gnome user LONG ago, in the Mandrake Linux days, if your
memory goes that far back. Early 2000's. Loved it then.
You're right
though, it went through (I think) 2 version upgrades and became
something I could no longer use. Reminded me of a Fisher-Price baby
toy. ;-)
you mentioned icewm before, and os/2 as well.. afaik it only ever came with a pseudo-warp3/CDE looking theme so i made one that's pretty much aixel-perfec
copy of warp4 if you want a copy:
https://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/warpalex.zip
I do. Mandrake was one of the first distros I tried and I found its installer frustrating. It was the only graphic installer that would *perfectly* set up my video settings during installation. It looked so good I was very, very disappointed that the installer didn't set the desktop video settings correctly. It always came out an unusable mess.
YES! Honestly, to me, it looked like it was created for use on a
touch screen system which, since I don't use one, made it real
frustrating to try to use.
Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
This was at the same time Windows 8 did the exact same thing. People
with desktops were furious, so Windows 8.1 was released very soon after that addressed it. By the looks of it, Gnome has also addressed it, somewhat.
I had tried Mandrake years ago, and the first version I tried was able to automatically detect my video hardware and was able to perfectly set up the video settings for me as well, but then the next version failed to
do so, and the UI didn't work out of the box like it did with the
previous version. I haven't used Mandrake since then.. I had seen a
few Linux distros like that too, not just Mandrake. However, it seems that Linux distros are better overall these days.
This was at the same time Windows 8 did the exact same thing. People with desktops were furious, so Windows 8.1 was released very soon after that addressed it. By the looks of it, Gnome has also addressed it, somewhat.
Regards,
Nick
... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
well it was easy to change around with a 3rd party. i think i just
rigged mine to auto login
Now I just keep Windows for gaming. While Linux is catching up (slowly), it still has a ways to go when it comes to high-end gaming.
Sure, but 3rd party stuff shouldn't be necessary for any desktop environment in order to make it work comfortably with a desktop PC. They all thought tablets were going to take over the world, and they didn't.
At that time, I remember Gnome had all icons (like a tablet would) and no "start" menu. I think at first, they brought the start menu back, and then they eventually turned all the large icons into regular icons that could be placed in a taskbar/docker thing again.
Windows did something similar around the Windows 8 release, and then went backpeddled in 8.1 to at least offer an option for a normal non-touchscreen desktop style again.
I remember that time quite well, as I was dabbling with Linux for awhile before that just as a fun hobby, but right around that time was when I ended up shifting all of my BBS/FTN, plex and other server related stuff over to CLI Linux, for good.
i'm not a big gamer, i just can't stand the repetition. i will mess around with a sandbox game but i dont think i can ever play a game until completion ever again.
I'd like to see more Linux support for gaming too. It sounds like it
has come a little ways though. I've heard of Proton for Linux,
allowing more Windows games to run on Linux, but I think it still has
a bit of a ways to go.
Native Linux versions of games would be ideal too - but I've been
seeing more of that too. Several months ago, I heard of a 2018
sequel to the old PC Descent games, called Overload, and it's
available for Linux, as well as Windows and Mac. And if you like
flight simulators, X-Plane is available for Linux - I've tried it,
and I actually think it's quite good. There's also an open-source
arena shooter game called Xonotic that's pretty good (it's somewhat
similar to Unreal Tournament).
And the Java version of Minecraft should naturally run on Linux too.
i just think it was a poor decision to make it LOOK like a mobile
device and there was backlash so they change it to make people happy.
you cant fault them for trying, though.
I still use windows for my home system because i am no longer a power
user. i of course use linux for my servers because that's the best
way to do things.
i'm not a big gamer, i just can't stand the repetition. i will mess
around with a sandbox game but i dont think i can ever play a game
until completion ever again.
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